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Jarosław Kaczyński testified before the Pegasus investigative commission. Bianka Mikołajewska comments: this indicates that he knew it earlier – at the time of purchase

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I would draw attention to the thread from when Jarosław Kaczyński knew about Pegasus. The testimony given by the former deputy prime minister shows that he knew about it before the planned purchase, said Bianka Mikołajewska from Wirtualna Polska, commenting on the hearing of the PiS president before the parliamentary investigative committee for Pegasus.

Journalist Bianka Mikołajewska from Wirtualna Polska commented on the many-hour interrogation on TVN24 Jarosław Kaczyński before the parliamentary investigative committee on Pegasus.

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– I would certainly draw attention to the topic related to when Jarosław Kaczyński knew about Pegasus. The testimony given by the former (deputy) prime minister shows that he knew about it before the planned purchase of Pegasus, she said.

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She indicated that the president PIS “he said that he found out that there were some problems with the purchase and with the financing of this purchase.” – So this would indicate that already in 2017 he had knowledge that Pegasus was to be purchased – she emphasized. – Now the question is, in what capacity did the Prime Minister find out about this? Because at that time, in 2017, he was just a rank-and-file MP. The chairman of the Law and Justice party, of course, but this in no way justifies the fact that such knowledge – regarding the purchase of special equipment by Central Anticorruption Bureau – he was supposed to have it – she pointed out.

“He had no right to have access to such information”

She admitted that Kaczyński “explained that he was allowed to access secret information because his permission had been extended since he was prime minister in 2005.” – But even if this was the case, when it comes to access to secret information and all classified information, the principle applies that only those people for whom it is necessary to perform their functions have access to it – said Mikołajewska, adding that “every it should only have the narrow scope of information necessary to perform its functions.

– As a rank-and-file MP, Mr. Jarosław Kaczyński simply had no right to have access to such information – she noted.

Mikołajewska: he had no right to have access to such informationTVN24

“This indicates that he knew it earlier, at the time of purchase”

She also drew attention to another aspect of the testimony. – There were seven companies that allegedly offered the system – this is also what Mr. Jarosław Kaczyński said today. In my opinion, this is some new information, I didn't know about it before. I think this also indicates that he knew about it earlier, at the time of purchase, said the journalist.

Mikołajewska: this indicates that he knew about it earlier, at the time of purchase

Mikołajewska: this indicates that he knew about it earlier, at the time of purchaseTVN24

“He was getting tangled up quite a bit.”

Mikołajewska also said that “Mr. Jarosław Kaczyński was quite confused.” – Because he once said that he didn't actually look into these matters, that he had no knowledge and so on. And then suddenly it turned out that he was very strongly convinced about something, she noticed.

– For example, I very much wonder where Mr. Jarosław Kaczyński's very strong and firm belief comes from that Krzysztof Brejza committed a crime or committed crimes. Because he repeated it several times during this commission, even though so far all court judgments in the case of Mr. and Mrs. Brejza confirmed that they were under surveillance for absolutely no reason, she continued.

She added that “so far, MP Brejza has not heard any allegations in the case, so there is really no confirmation of this.” – On the contrary, everything confirms that he was under surveillance only for political reasons – she said.

Main photo source: Paweł Supernak/PAP



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