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President Andrzej Duda talks to Marcin Wrona about Viktor Orban's visit to Moscow and Russian attacks on Ukraine

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President Andrzej Duda, during a conversation in Washington with TVN's “Fakty” correspondent in the USA Marcin Wrona, said that Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban did not tell Volodymyr Zelensky that after his visit to Kiev he was going to Moscow. He added that “in matters of foreign policy, especially when it comes to Ukraine, Poland and Hungary led by Viktor Orban are two completely polar approaches today”. The president declared that at the NATO summit he would “present the government's position one hundred percent”. – Plus some of my personal, additional elements that fall within the substantive scope of the government's position – Andrzej Duda stated in “Fakty po Faktach” on TVN24.

President Andrzej Duda is in Washington at the summit FOR THISwhich will last from Tuesday to Thursday. In a conversation with the correspondent of “Fakty” TVN in USA Marcin Wrona spoke about the anniversaries related to this summit.

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– First of all, it is a very important anniversary. 75 years since the signing of the North Atlantic Treaty and 25 years of our presence in the North Atlantic Alliance. And certainly, if we were not part of the North Atlantic Alliance today, especially for 25 years, and Russia was today's Russia and the situation would look as it does, that is, Russia attacked Ukraine and conducts full-scale aggression there, threatening the rest of Europe as well, we would certainly be in a much more difficult situation in terms of security than we are now, he said.

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President: Orban did not tell Zelensky that he was going to Moscow

The President also referred to the Prime Minister's recent visit to Moscow in “Fakty po Faktach” on TVN24. Hungarian Viktor Orban, who first went to Kiev and then to the capital of Russia.

– In matters of foreign policy, especially when it comes to Ukraine, Poland and Hungary led by Viktor Orban are two completely polar approaches today. Poland has had a clear, decisive position from day one, or rather before this Russian aggression began – he continued.

At the same time, Andrzej Duda admitted that “it is true that Viktor Orban did not warn Volodymyr Zelensky that he was going to Russia”. – Because I talked to Volodymyr Zelensky for a long time yesterday (on Monday – ed.), and also for a long time face to face, and Volodymyr told me that he absolutely did not warn him about it, that he simply got on a plane and flew to Moscow – said the Polish president.

He added that this “unfortunately shows the direction in which Hungarian foreign policy is heading.”

President: Russia committed another barbaric attack

Andrzej Duda also commented on Monday's missile attack on Kyivwhich was launched by Russian services. The Kh-101 missile hit the largest children's hospital in the country, Okhmatdyt.

He said that “Russia has committed another brutal, barbaric attack on civilian facilities in Ukraine.”

– This shows what kind of war Russia is actually waging and what kind of an aggressor Russia is today. And this is just another argument, unfortunately, (…), given to us here at the NATO summit in Washington to say: “listen, Russia today requires that we simply stand firmly against it” – he noted.

President: institutions are being created that will have a NATO-Ukrainian character

The President was also asked what exactly Ukraine can count on after the upcoming North Atlantic Alliance summit.

Andrzej Duda confirmed that “unfortunately” at this summit Ukraine will not be able to count on an invitation to join the Alliance, but indicated that the statement after the summit may include a statement about the irreversibility of Ukraine's path to NATO.

– The opinion will appear, but when it comes to specifics, first of all, institutions are being created that will have a NATO-Ukrainian character. Such an institution will be the JATEC Center in Poland, which is currently being built in Bydgoszcz. The final approval of this by the North Atlantic Alliance will take place during this Washington summit – he said.

– It is important for us that it will be in our training center in Bydgoszcz, where the Polish Army Doctrine and Training Center is located today. This center is being created there now and will be created in the coming years. We hope that in the end it will be an independent institution of the North Atlantic Alliance, which will have such a joint profile, i.e. common, combined, Ukrainian-NATO – continued the president.

President on 'strong hypothetical possibility' of supporting Ukraine

President Andrzej Duda was also asked whether it was possible for NATO allies to agree to shoot down missiles over Ukraine that were launched from Russia.

– This is a hypothetical possibility that we discussed, among others, in Paris during a meeting organized by Emmanuel Macron a few weeks ago, when, let me remind you, Emmanuel Macron he proposed to send NATO countries' armed forces to Ukraine. I was very skeptical about that. I said that of course there are various possibilities of supporting Ukraine, also quite strong ones – said Andrzej Duda.

– Such a strong hypothetical possibility, if Ukraine agreed to it, would be the possibility of shooting down Russian missiles flying over Ukraine, but shooting them down from the territory or airspace of NATO countries. I did not say specifically Poland. I said that there is such a hypothetical possibility and this possibility is indeed being considered and discussed in the context of general support for Ukraine at the moment – the president said.

– It is true that Ukrainians want this, but it is a serious decision, although it does not mean NATO's entry into Ukrainian territory – the president emphasized.

President Duda: At the NATO summit in Washington, I will present the government's position in one hundred percent

The president also assured that at the NATO summit he would present the government's position “one hundred percent”, because – as he said – “it is completely consistent with the policy we have been pursuing so far”. – By us, i.e. by Poland, by the previous government, by me. We have analyzed this position in detail, I have no doubts about this position – replied the president.

He emphasized that he can say with full responsibility: – Yes, I will present the government's position in one hundred percent, plus some of my personal, additional elements that fall within the substantive scope of the government's position.

– When it comes to security issues, as the last National Security Council meeting yesterday morning showed, we speak with absolutely one voice and there is no disagreement on this. I want to reassure everyone, there is no conflict here – Andrzej Duda emphasized. He added that “the only information that has really stirred emotions and doubts that has appeared recently is that somewhere in the Ministry of Finance there is supposed to be an idea being prepared to reduce defense spending.”

– I will definitely oppose it if such an idea existed. The Minister of Defense told me that he would absolutely not accept such a situation and that it would mean for him that he would have to resign. I understand that such a situation will not happen. Poles can be sure that I will keep a close eye on it – said the president.

President Duda: At the NATO summit in Washington, I will present the government's position in one hundred percent

Duda on appointing ambassadors: it is a joint decision of the president and the government

Andrzej Duda commented on the dispute over the dismissal of current ambassadors and the appointment of new ones.

– Of course, the government has the right to present its candidates for ambassadors. The procedure has always been that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs would propose candidates for the positions and send them to the Presidential Palace with preliminary information – said the president.

– The president wrote “consent” or “no consent”, referred it to the ministry. If there was consent, there was no problem. Then it was directed to the appropriate parliamentary committee, which made a decision. The president had already signed it, so it was difficult for the president to withdraw, because it is also a matter of prestige. The procedure went smoothly, the committee was already working on specific candidates, de facto accepted by the president and the government, and at the very end the president has to sign the nomination, because if the president does not sign the nomination, no one will become an ambassador without it – indicated Duda.

Andrzej Duda on the ambassadors' case: This is a joint decision of the president and the government. This is not making foreign policy

Andrzej Duda on the ambassadors' case: This is a joint decision of the president and the government. This is not making foreign policyTVN24

He also said that the appointment of an ambassador is a “joint decision of the president and the government”. – And this is not doing foreign policy, it is nominating people who are not politicians, because ambassadors are not politicians, they are diplomats. Most often, they are simply officials from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, who perform these tasks for the Republic of Poland on a rotational basis and they are the executors of policy, not politicians – he explained. As Andrzej Duda continued, the head of diplomacy “can choose his associates, but he must agree on these associates with the president, because conducting foreign policy, especially where constitutional presidential prerogatives are indicated, requires cooperation”.

President on Biden-Trump debate

Andrzej Duda was also asked by Marcin Wrona about his thoughts after the election debate in the USA between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

– Of course, we have to be clear. President Joe Biden had several such moments of hesitation, suspension during this debate, as some say. But please also remember that for the majority of this debate he led an equal discussion, an equal debate, responding to various arguments, presenting his own arguments – he said. – So of course, no one has any doubts, President Joe Biden is a man over 80 years old, I am not 40, I am 52 and I see that the years have taken their toll during these almost nine years that I have been serving as President of the Republic of Poland – he added.

President Andrzej Duda responded to Marcin Wrona's remark that Donald Trump “lied at every turn during this debate” by saying that “President Donald Trump has his own way of conducting discussions, but if we look at it objectively, he is only a few years younger than President Joe Biden”. – I myself have participated in many debates. I have to be honest, I don't like debates. I don't have the ability to debate, to switch to arguments. You have to have specific skills, a specific talent, (…). So I personally look at every debate with great distance, because I know that during a debate you can stumble a lot and this is then irreversible – said the president.

President Duda comments on Biden-Trump debate

President Duda comments on Biden-Trump debateTVN24

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