Rafał Trzaskowski at Sławomir Mentzen. Expert comments in “Facts after Facts”. “He wanted to show that he is not a flag”

Probably the most substantive discussion of this election campaign. She beat official debates on her head – said Professor Maciej Kisiłowski in “Facts after Facts” on TVN24, commenting on the conversation of Rafał Trzaskowski with Sławomir Mentzen. According to Szymon Rębowski, the candidate of the Civic Coalition “returned to being himself” from the Mamprawowsiec.pl portal.

On Saturday, Rafał Trzaskowski was a guest of the Sławomir Mentzen Canal. The presidential candidate did not sign the eight -point declaration prepared by the confederation politician, who in the first round of elections won the third result. – I will not sign anything because I am not Karol Nawrocki – declared Trzaskowski.

“Probably the most substantive discussion of this election campaign”

– The first impression is that it was probably the most substantive discussion of this election campaign. She beat the official debates for the head – in “Facts after Facts” a professor of law and strategy at the Central European University in Vienna Maciej Kisiłowski. According to him, “both discussions came out very well as people who can talk culturally, substantively”

– During this conversation I saw a potential germ of such a common agreement between these two environments (Civic Coalition and Confederation – ed.). I saw a lot of common points, I also saw that both sides stood hard, but respecting and respecting their positions – he said.

In his opinion, “it was very interesting and building, taking into account the level of campaign, these invective, this populism that we have seen so far.” – There was a substantive discussion, maybe the first swallow of hope after these many months of falling Polish policy – he assessed.

Prof. Kisiłowski also pointed out that Rafał Trzaskowski “agreed with half the demands of Sławomir Mentzen, a politician, whom all commentators on the progressive side accused a few days ago of being an extreme, almost fascist candidate.”

– these common points between the Civic Platform environment and the party as radical as ConfederationHowever, this shows that Rafał Trzaskowski comes out to this right -wing environment – he assessed. At the same time, he added that the candidate Ko “wanted to show that he is not such a flag as Karol Nawrocki.”

A political science with a “quite high result” Trzaskowski

Dr. Sonia Horonziak, a political scale from the Institute of Public Stock, agreed that “we could hear conversations above all a calm, very charged facts, but also conducted in a substantive way.”

– Even in the case of not very high flights of arguments from Sławomir Mentzen regarding hair color (Donald Tusk – ed.), The political opponent was not upset. He answered substantively, calmly. I think it was very lacking in this campaign – she said.

– We heard above all what are the specific ideas of Rafał Trzaskowski for his presidency, but we also heard what, for example, he thinks about them and the confederation voters and Sławomir Mentzen think about them – she noted.

She pointed out that, summarizing the Saturday conversation with Trzaskowski, Mentzen announced that the KO candidate convinced 32 percent of his electorate, and 67 percent did not convince. “This is a pretty high result,” she said.

Rafał Trzaskowski “returned to being himself”

– I think it was the best performance of Rafał Trzaskowski in this campaign, he was relaxed, he returned to being himself, because throughout the entire campaign we watched that he turns right, that he followed this slogan of common sense – said Szymon Rębowski from the portal Mamprawowiedziec.pl.

He pointed out that Trzaskowski stood very clearly on the side of the people LGBTboth in terms of defense of the Act on hate and education in schools. – It seems to me that it was Rafał Trzaskowski talking from his positions, talking very confidently about European matters or matters related to security – emphasized the guest of TVN24.

In his opinion, Trzaskowski's conversation with Mentzen was very different from the speech of Karol Nawrocki on the confederation policy channel. According to him, the candidate PIS He fell like a “petitioner” or “student”. – He got a lecture on interest rates. “Mr. Chairman”, “Mr. President”, “Doctor” turned to Sławomir Mentzen. Rafał Trzaskowski said “Mr. Sławomir” – he noted.

– It seems to me that he wanted to emphasize his position of the presidential format, a person who can talk, he may agree with some things, with some, but if he can sign – this is the book with his autograph, and not necessarily postulates – added Rębowski.

According to him, Sławomir Mentzen's conversations with the candidates “go beyond the confederation electorate”. – not only the confederation voters watch them. It seems to me that they may have a broader importance for various groups of undecided people – he said, noting that “we have about 8 million entitled to vote, who did not vote (in the first round – ed.), And will probably vote in the second round.”