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Russian attacks were not only aimed at the largest children's hospital, Ohmatdyt. They also hit other health centers, such as a maternity hospital and another clinic. So we know that these attacks had to be deliberate and were aimed at medical centers – Kira Rudnyk, a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, told Michal Sznajder. – Russia committed a crime. We are very open to international groups conducting an investigation – she added.

Michał Sznajder, “Fakty o Świecie” TVN24 BiS: First of all, I would like to start by expressing my condolences in connection with the terrible tragedy caused by the Russians yesterday (Monday – editor's note) in Kiev.

Kira Rudyk, deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine: Thank you very much. Today is a day of mourning in Ukraine, in Kiev and in all other cities due to yesterday's attacks by Russia. We do not lose hope that thanks to rescue missions we will find some of the people who may still be under the rubble. We are united with them in prayers. With them, with their families. The situation is really very difficult.

Michał Sznajder: What is your information regarding the situation regarding the children's hospital?

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Kira Rudyk: At the moment we know that yesterday 33 people were killed by a Russian missile. This number is the minimum. There are many people injured. The attacks were not only directed against the largest children's hospital, Ohmatdyt. They also hit other health centers, such as a maternity hospital and another clinic. So we know that these attacks had to be deliberate and were directed against medical centers. I want to make it clear to everyone who is watching us. Attacking hospitals is a war crime. Russia committed a crime. We are very open to international groups to investigate, to check it. We are absolutely convinced that we will ensure that Russia pays at some point for what it did.

“The attacks must have been deliberate and targeted medical centers”Michał Sznajder/Facts about the World TVN24 BiS

MS: I don't think we're able to understand how the perpetrators of such horrific attacks can think. But I wonder what people in Ukraine think about why they attacked facilities like children's hospitals? Why did it happen?

KR: Honestly? We don't know. Our focus right now is to make sure that we help the children. I want to explain that this hospital was the largest hospital in Ukraine, but it also treated the most difficult children. Children fighting cancer. Children on hemodialysis, when their kidneys are not working. Our focus right now is to help them and their families. You can imagine how hard it was for them to go through this treatment. How hard it is to survive such an attack during it, but when we look back, we see that this is not the first time that Russia has committed something like this, such a crime, because they did similar things in Syria. They were able to get away with it. Now it is crucial for the world to understand that evil that goes unpunished always comes back. Also, this could be a sign for NATO countries to say: look how far this escalation can go. For us, people of a free country, it is impossible to even understand why anyone would do something like this. Perhaps this is another show of force that there is no appropriate response to something like this.

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Mr. Michael, we are begging for these air defense systems to protect our citizens from tragedies like this, from the first day of the war. Up to now, we have not received enough of them to protect ourselves from Russian missile attacks. They are still doing it, so we will repeat our call: dear world, democratic leaders, help us survive. Help us to allow our children to have some kind of future. For this, we need the ability to defend ourselves. For this, we need more weapons, but most of all air defense systems. If you are not fighting in any war, please give us these air defense systems, because we will use them for good. We will save people, not even adults, children. Children, because you see what happens when we cannot defend ourselves. And I really think that President Zelensky will be telling NATO leaders in Washington.

"We are the bulwark that does not allow the democratic world to suffer"

“We are the bulwark that does not allow the democratic world to suffer”Michał Sznajder/Facts about the World TVN24 BiS

MS: That was exactly what my next question was going to be. What are Ukraine's expectations regarding the upcoming NATO summit?

KR: Our goal remains the same. We want a clear path for Ukraine to join NATO. Because it is absolutely clear to the whole world now that we are the bulwark that does not allow the democratic world to suffer from what we suffer from. We deserve a clear path for how we become a member of NATO. However, we also understand that there are some political disruptions in our allies. Now our goal, first of all, is to get the right amount of anti-aircraft weapons for our country. To make sure that we survive to follow this path that will be shown to us by our partners. For example, becoming a full member of the European Union and a member of NATO.

Really recently, when I was talking to people who were helping to clean up the rubble, they said that the idea of ​​the future of Ukraine is very nice, but are we going to live to see the realization of this idea? Are we going to die in another Russian attack on our city? I think that's a very important point, a very clear point, that when we talk about our future, we're going to make sure that this future happens at all.

The entire conversation between Michał Sznajder and Kira Rudnyk

The entire conversation between Michał Sznajder and Kira RudnykMichał Sznajder/Facts about the World TVN 24 BiS

Facts about the World TVN24 BiS

Main image source: PAP/Vladislav Musiienko



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