The guest of Saturday’s “Talks about the end of the world” program on TVN24 was the leader of the Polska 2050 movement, Szymon Hołownia. The politician calls himself a “green democrat”, stressing that his party has the most pro-climate program in Poland. Is it really so? What idea does Szymon Hołownia have for fighting climate change? And what do the representatives of the Youth Climate Strike think about his proposals?
Almost 40,000 Poles died prematurely due to smog in 2019. This Saturday, in the series “talks about the end of the world”, Olga Orzechowska’s report on how Smog affects the health and life of children was presented. The guest of Magda Łucyan in the TVN24 studio was the leader of the Polska 2050 movement, Szymon Hołownia.
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Hołownia: today it’s too late for us to move away from coal earlier than 2035
Scientists point out that if we are to have any chance in combating climate change, we must move away from coal by 2030. Poland by 2050 promises to achieve this target by 2040. When asked why it was so late and so unambitious, Hołownia replied: – We have the patient in the same condition in which we found him when we arrived at the scene. Sometimes, of course, I would like to answer the cry of those who say: please do everything so that this patient rises, starts to walk and can function normally. But I have a patient – that is Poland – who has been drinking unhealthily for 20 years, has not moved as he should, and I can only do with him what his condition allows.
The leader of Poland in 2050 emphasized that “today we are after a terribly long time of delays, doing nothing, rubbing people’s eyes, telling that coal is holy”. – And today it is simply too late for us to move away from coal earlier than in 2035. Of course, I can promise you that we will do it in 2028, but no one will do it until then, because there is simply no physical possibility, argued Hołownia.
Representative of the Youth Climate Strike: we are still stuck in political realism that is holding back change
However, this date does not satisfy the representatives of the Youth Climate Strike. In their opinion, a decade in the face of climate change is of colossal importance
– We are still stuck in political realism that stops us from talking about how we can do these things – said Dominika Lasota from the Youth Climate Strike. In her opinion, “Poland without coal until 2030 is possible, with a fundamental change in paradigms, rules and perception of the world”. – For now, we are still stuck in this reality based on fossil fuels, a reality in which politicians do not want to cooperate with each other, do not want to listen to the voice of society, young people, and who do not take this crisis seriously – said Lasota.
“It is not true,” Holownia replied to her. – Believe me, I would give anything for us to do it in 2030. I only know what we are dealing with today – he added. The leader of Poland in 2050 warned that too fast and abrupt energy transformation in our country could take people to the streets and cause power in the country to be won by groups such as the Confederation.
– We are entering a conversation that is about nothing. This is making up what will happen in the streets. Now people are suffering on the streets because the climate crisis is here, in Poland and all over the world. It is our responsibility and entering into talks about what PiS or Confederation will do, we do not care – said Wiktoria Jędroszkowiak from the Youth Climate Strike.
– We should all care, because this is a game with 38 million people – Holownia replied.
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