“This is the main cause of this conflict, when moderates do not make their voices heard, on both sides.”

Dr. Małgorzata Bonikowska, president of the Thinktank center and the Center for International Relations, and Piotr Łukasiewicz, colonel of the reserve and former Polish ambassador in Afghanistanwere the guest of Anita Werner in Wednesday’s edition of “Fakty po Faktach”.

– War in Israel definitely divides the world, said Bonikowska, referring to the armed conflict in the Gaza Strip. – But it must be added, for fairness’ sake, that Hamas attacked as a result of the very consistent, radical policy of successive governments in Israel, headed by Benjamin Netanyahu – added the political scientist.

Bonikowska noted that there are radical factions on both sides, both in Israel and among the Palestinians.

– Hamas is not all Palestinians, and it is not only the voice of Hamas that the Palestinians speak – emphasized the interlocutor of “Fakty po Faktach”. – But this is a radical faction and it is the same in Israel, where there are radical groups that say that dialogue makes no sense, that the two-state solution has not worked. (…) This is the main cause of this conflict, when moderates do not make their voices heard, on both sides – lamented the president of the Thinktank and the Center for International Relations.

The “Fakty po Faktach” interlocutor added that “the local government has not earned any respect among the Palestinians either.” – In Israel, on the other hand, these moderate voices have disappeared somewhere – she said.

As Bonikowska stated, “Israeli citizens are currently standing firm behind their government, but the time will come for accountability.”

Reserve colonel, former Polish ambassador in Afghanistan and analyst for security and international affairs of Polityka Insight Piotr Łukasiewicz, asked in “Fakty po Faktach” whether he saw war crimes in Hamas’ war with Israel, replied. – I certainly see some transgressions and some disproportionality in Israel’s actions towards Hamas and civilians. It seems that these are no longer situations when we can only talk about prosecuting terrorists, but also – and the world notices this – that Israel is starting to lose international support because of this, because a disproportionate number of civilians are killed – added Łukasiewicz. – In situations of armed conflicts in Iraq or Afghanistan, when the Taliban were in hiding, soldiers refrained from massive operations in order not to cause civilian losses, with the assumption that the person being hunted “would be caught later,” he added.

When asked how long the fighting in the Gaza Strip could last and what Israel’s military actions would be, the TVN24 interlocutor replied that he “does not see a comprehensive occupation of the Gaza Strip.”

According to the former ambassador, Israeli strikes will be “point-based”.