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Will there be a notice to the prosecutor's office against former RPD Mikołaj Pawlak? Monika Horna-Cieślak: I am analyzing the material. I do not exclude

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A notification to the prosecutor's office regarding the activities of Mikołaj Pawlak has not yet been submitted, but various things may happen – admitted the Ombudsman for Children, Monika Horna-Cieślak, talking about the activities of her predecessor. In “#BezKitu” she also said that the information about the purchase of very expensive cars by the RPD office during Pawlak's times is true. She also talked about what needs to be done to combat the mental health crisis of children and young people.

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Children's Rights Ombudsman Monika Horna-Cieślak was asked in “#BezKitu” on TVN24, among other things, whether she had submitted any notifications to the prosecutor's office regarding the activities of her predecessor, Mikołaj Pawlak.

– I didn't submit it. However, as I said, I am a carnist and I analyze the material I have. I do not rule out that such a notification will be submitted, she admitted. – It has not been submitted yet, but various things can happen – she added.

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Horna-Cieślak: NIK audit completed, I know the report

Horna-Cieślak also said that the control Supreme Chamber of Control carried out in the RPD office, has already “finished”. – I know the report that was prepared. It has not been made public yet, so I would not like to comment on the report, she noted.

– But there was control. And I'm glad she was there when I immediately took office, she continued. – For me personally, it was an extremely important signal about what I read in the inspection report – she emphasized. When asked if the report was shocking for her – as KO MP Kinga Gajewska described it – the TVN24 guest replied: – For me, yes.

– I say this from the perspective of a lawyer – she added.

“I experienced the first shock at the very beginning”

She also described what she saw when she took office. – This image is evolving. Basically, I knew it was bad, she said.

– I experienced the first shock at the very beginning when I realized how unequally the employees were treated. (…) Some people received rewards (in the amount of) nearly PLN 100,000, and other employees received small rewards or were told that there was no money, she said.

She also emphasized that “she did not come to an office that was well-oiled and well-functioning.” – This was an office that I was actually building anew, from scratch – she added.

Monika Horna-Cieślak in “#BezKitu”. Questions for the Ombudsman for ChildrenTVN24

Cars purchased by the RPD office

Horna-Cieślak also talked about the activities of the RDP office during the times of her predecessor, Mikołaj Pawlak. She was asked whether the information about the purchase of very expensive cars by the Ombudsman was true.

“Yes, that's true,” she admitted. – There were cars that were imported from the United States. I wouldn't buy such a car personally, but I have it in stock, she said.

– Why bring a car from the United States to the office of the Ombudsman for Children? – asked the host of the program Radomir Wit. – I am not able to answer this question. This is another topic that I have to deal with instead of being the Ombudsman – replied his interlocutor.

Cars purchased by the RPD office under the previous Commissioner.  Horna-Cieślak comments

Cars purchased by the RPD office under the previous Commissioner. Horna-Cieślak commentsTVN24

In November last year, the GrowSPACE foundation signaled that there was suspicion of misuse of public funds by the RPD office. The Foundation audited the office's activity reports and reported that Pawlak had spent over half a million zlotys on the delivery and purchase of passenger cars.

“We need to accept that young people have a mental health crisis.”

She also talked about what things need to be done when it comes to the child and adolescent mental health crisis.

– Certainly, the thing we need to do is, first of all, accept that young people have a mental health crisis in general. They experience situations when they feel bad and when they don't have the strength to get out of bed, she emphasized. She admitted that “unfortunately, young people tell me that they do not understand.” – About a misunderstanding of their emotions, a misunderstanding of their needs – said RPD.

Ombudsman for Children: we must accept that young people generally have a mental health crisis

Ombudsman for Children: we must accept that young people generally have a mental health crisisTVN24

– Another thing that requires such a clear view is that there is no shame in using the help of a psychologist or psychiatrist – Horna-Cieślak continued. And she used an analogy: – When we have a tooth problem, we go to the dentist. When we have a mental health problem, we go to a doctor or seek help from a psychologist or psychotherapist.

– And that's OK, because it helps us function, it often saves our lives in various situations – she said.

Ombudsman for Children: There is no shame in using the help of a psychologist or psychiatrist

Ombudsman for Children: There is no shame in using the help of a psychologist or psychiatristTVN24

What about parental consent?

She also emphasized “how important it is to react, help children, pay attention to their needs and problems.” – If we take care of the child, we really don't have to get to the point where he or she will require hospitalization – she said.

– Let us also remember that in order for children to benefit from psychological care, they must always have their parent's consent. Sometimes young people ask their parents that they would like to seek help from a psychologist, only to be told: no, not necessarily, you are not crazy. Children hear different things, she pointed out.

In this context, she said that work is underway to provide access to psychological help for children under eighteen years of age, but this would be based on the fact that the therapist would be responsible for obtaining the parent's support. – Because a child cannot be an island when he needs help – she emphasized.

She admitted that she was talking to those in power about systemic solutions. – The bill has been prepared – she announced, emphasizing that “it was prepared with a group of young people.”

– Now, at the Ombudsman for Children, we are working to ensure that this bill meets all the assumptions needed for the bill to become a draft legal act – she said. – I should have the draft bill ready on my desk by May 21, she said, admitting that she counts “on the success of this legislative process.”

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