Changing the current policy of the American administration, even if the option is a truce, the loss of some territories, but combined with securing the independence and ability to defend Ukraine, is in our interest – said Marcin Horała from Law and Justice on TVN24. He said that “this is a realistic, still relatively good” scenario for Poland, although the optimal scenario would be “a complete victory for Ukraine.”
In Saturday's “Kawa na ławę” program on TVN24, guests were asked, among others: about whether possible peace talks regarding war in Ukraine would be beneficial for Poland. – Obviously, the optimal and best scenario for Poland is a complete victory for Ukraine and the recovery of all territories. There is probably agreement here – said Marcin Horała (PIS).
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Horała about a “real, relatively good” scenario for Poland
– But does the trajectory and the way the war is going so far really indicate that it is heading in this direction? Absolutely not, he said. – And a simple continuation of the current policy of the American administration would lead to the fact that this war will last another 3-4 years, we will tell ourselves that “only a complete victory”, and in the end, Ukraine, devastated, destroyed and devastated in all aspects, will fall – he said Marcin Horała.
– And that is why changing this policy of the American administration, even if the option is a truce, the loss of some territories, but combined with securing the independence and ability to defend Ukraine, is in our interest. We should not adopt the policy that the train stops and we draw the curtains and pretend that we are moving on, he continued.
Konrad Piasecki, the host of the program, referred to these words, noting that in the plan presented by JD Vance “there is no guarantee, because if Ukraine does not join NATO, it will de facto have no guarantee, and it is difficult to imagine that now in the next “For 50 years, German, British, French and Polish troops stood on the border or demarcation line between Ukraine and Russia.” – Everyone here asked what the best scenario for Poland was. I answered which one is the best, which one is realistic, which one is still relatively good, and which one is tragic. A simple continuation of what has happened so far would be tragic, said Marcin Horała.
At the end of September, future vice president JD Vance presented the assumptions of Trump's plan to end the war in Ukraine. He spoke about the need to create a demilitarized zone on the demarcation line between Russia and Ukraine. According to Vance, this line “would have to be heavily fortified to prevent the Russians from invading again.” In turn, Moscow “would receive from Kiev a guarantee of the neutrality of Ukraine remaining outside NATO and such allied institutions.” He also suggested that “the conflict continues because American arms companies and financial institutions are making money on it.”
992nd day of Russia's war against UkrainePAP – Adam Ziemienowicz
Zelensky: a ceasefire without guarantees is very dangerous
Currently, Russian troops occupy approximately 20 percent. territory of Ukraine. The president of Ukraine has referred to possible talks with Russia in recent days Volodymyr Zelensky. On Thursday, at a press conference after the European Political Community summit in Budapest, he said that talking about a ceasefire in the war with Russia without agreeing on security guarantees for Ukraine is “very dangerous.”
– I think today's rhetoric is very dangerous, and we know which leaders are introducing and elevating it. It's about a ceasefire. First a ceasefire, then we'll see. A very scary matter for all our citizens. (…) Who are you? Your children are dying, they are dying there, your houses are being destroyed? What are we talking about? – Zelensky asked.
The president noted that there has been a ceasefire since 2014, when the Russian Federation occupied Crimea and part of it Donbassculminated in preparations for a full-scale invasion. According to him, the ceasefire will lead to preparations for the continuation of the occupation of Ukraine and the destruction of Ukrainian independence and sovereignty.
“We don't talk about it”
In turn, at the end of October, Volodymyr Zelensky emphasized that the Ukrainian authorities were not discussing the possibility of obtaining membership in the NATO in exchange for giving Russia the territory currently under the occupation of this country's troops. – We don't talk about it. However, I believe that these media insertions are not accidental. Apparently some partners may have these thoughts. That's why they don't talk to me directly about these issues, but of course they check through the media. I think that everything here depends on Ukrainian society, Zelensky said in a conversation with journalists.
According to the president, the Ukrainian side is now raising the issue of security guarantees in all negotiations. – The best thing is NATO. In times of war: an invitation, absolutely open, with a strong position in every format of diplomacy. This invitation, I think, does not depend on Russia's opinion. When other partners are also sure that they are stronger than Russia, then everything will be positive in this sense, he noted.
Asked whether Ukraine envisages starting talks on NATO membership without the occupied territories, Zelensky noted that “regardless of what path we choose, from a legal point of view, no one will recognize the occupied territories as the territories of other countries.”
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