Kaczyński and Giertych's quarrel in the Sejm. Comments

This is not a quarrel in parliament there – said Wednesday's start at the PiS PiS parliamentary rostrum Jarosław Kaczyński and MP Roman Giertych, MEPs of the new left, Krzysztof Śmiszek. Krzysztof Brejza (KO) called Kaczyński “an emotional manipulator”.

On Wednesday in the Sejm, Jarosław Kaczyński called MP Roman Giertych a “main sadist” in connection with the death of his colleague Barbara Skrzypek. Other PiS deputies They shouted: “murderer”.

On Friday, the Presidium of the Sejm decided that 50 PiS deputies in the meeting room violated the seriousness of the Chamber, directing unfounded accusations towards Giertych. Deputy marshal Piotr Zgorzelski He said that MPs Jarosław Kaczyński and Iwona Arent would lose half of the salary for three months. 48 PiS deputies, whom the Marshal's Guard and the Sejm's services identified as the screaming “murderer” will receive a penalty in the form of losing half of the salary for two months.

The matter was commented on Sunday in “Facts after Facts” MEPs: Krzysztof Śmiszek (New left) and Krzysztof Brejza (Civic Coalition).

Brejza: Kaczyński feeds on a quarrel

According to Brejza, PiS during its first rule “was not so focused on conflict, aggression, nervousness.” – Jarosław Kaczyński has turned into a man who feeds on a quarrel. He is an emotional manipulator – assessed MEP KO

In his opinion, Kaczyński “provides bad emotions to people.” – He caused this quarrel himself, repeatedly offended Roman Giertych. And he is responsible for tightening the language. For the fact that there was no physical aggression there. Who knows if it would not even be on hand to Kaczyński's PiS team – said Brejza.

– Where are the boundaries? There are no boundaries here. Only the political profit, which is to provide bad emotions, nerves, through emotional manipulation. Jarosław Kaczyński uses such tactics because the campaign is not going. He chose a wooden candidate. A candidate who runs such a medieval campaign, a wooden, very ineffective. He may not enter the second round of elections. And Jarosław Kaczyński, therefore, tries to polarly polarly public opinion, providing bad emotions – summed up the politician.

Śmiszek: Nawrocki's campaign is chopper

Śmiszek said that “this is not a quarrel in parliament.” – In the European Parliament we also argue, we also argue, we also use sharp words, but nobody would think about calling someone a murderer, sadist or challenging from the worst – he said.

He admitted that “Jarosław Kaczyński always did so, he always entered when his party was worse.” – It is getting worse, the MP said that Nawrocki's campaign is wooden. I would say that she is chopper. And that is why Kaczyński believes that his old tricks, his old methods of entering in the middle of the debate, interrupting, focusing attention through the worst insults will work – said MEP.

– I wouldn't trivialize it either. Because you can say, old good Kaczyński always did it, we know him, these are his old tricks. But when we get over it and talk about it, yes, he always does so, we will simply give permission to this rudeness, for this shoe. The shoe is a bad word – for such vile and disgusting policy behavior that may end very badly – said Śmiszek.

According to Brejzy, Kaczyński's action was planned. – This man has not presented any coherent vision of the state for years. They ruled eight years. What did they do good for Poland? What did they reform? Where was the proponationalism there? EURPOSEŁ asked. He added that instead there was “one great distribution” and introducing “Belarusian and Russian methods” in Poland.

– He also does this in his interest, because an independent investigation related to the Silver scandal is underway, where, according to reports of journalists, Jarosław Kaczyński may be charged, and he wants to harde his most radical electorate in such a false vision that this is a political investigation – said MEP.

Śmiszek said that Kaczyński “crosses his next borders”. -It is also manipulation and nerve loss, cynical manipulation, planned, after all, at the meeting he said that he succeeded, that these emotions were evoked, the focus was again on Kaczyński. The fact that we are talking about it for the third day is his success too. I just think so that he just loses these limits from the horizon – he said.

“They are offended by their good”

Guests of “Facts after facts” also talked about what happened at the house of the WOŚP president Jerzy Owsiak. On the fence of the house there were spray -painted inscriptions, including “sepsis” and five stars combined with his name. The President of the WOŚP Foundation announced this in the Facebook post. “For us another traumatic experience. Run away. Fear. And how will they set fire? I am begging you, call us to run” – he wrote. He stated that such action was “the continuation of this media shooting and accusations of an aggressive television station.”

“Please note that they destroy everything that is beautiful, which is community,” Brejza commented. – For me it is a complete aberration at all, they behave like some paranoids, they shit, hate Owsiak, for what? For a good help, for building a community approach to solving a problem – he added.

In his opinion, Owsiak's opponents “offends goodness, community.” – Because on the other hand, the leader is the emotional manipulator Kaczyński, who copies the holes between Poles and the training ground disaster in Smolensk. What he did with Macierewicz made the hatred of the Smolensk sect guru with this sower and through this training ground he saw that it was effective. But this is only effective from today for 25-27 percent of the electorate. A large part of the voters reverses themselves from it – he said.

– Kaczyński is cynical and manipulates and is fully aware of the very simple dependence that from hateful words a very short path to hateful deeds – said Śmiszek. – Of course, he will not physically raise his hand on anyone, but he is fully aware that behind his calls, behind his aberration statements, there will be 5, 10, 100 people in Poland, who will not only take spray and paint something on the fence of one person or another, but will take something else in their hands and will give their justice or give their justice to this person – he added.

He noted that “every violence that will have a political background falls on the shoulders of Kaczyński, because he will be responsible for bringing this hatred and raising these social unrest and social divisions.”