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Hope everybody at The Podcast Present is having fun with the convention (and ignoring their jet lag). Whereas I’m nonetheless very a lot throughout the pond (like, approach throughout) in LA, this concern of Scorching Pod leads with some information from BBC Radio. I’m additionally digging into children podcasts on YouTube and an attention-grabbing announcement by Invoice Simmons about Spotify’s voice cloning for adverts.
However earlier than I begin — keep in mind Twitter Areas? Twitter’s dwell audio platform will make historical past tomorrow at 6PM PT when Florida Governor Ron DeSantis hops in a room to announce his bid for presidency. As The Verge reported final 12 months, many of the team behind Twitter Areas has both been fired or resigned. Hopefully there will probably be no technical difficulties!
Youngsters podcasts on YouTube can’t compete with Bluey
Standard audio podcasts for adults by Slate and NPR haven’t thrived on YouTube — seems which may be the case for teenagers podcasts as properly. About six months in the past, children podcast writer Tinkercast began an experiment on YouTube. The writer behind standard children podcast titles like Wow in The World and Find out how to Be An Earthling began publishing episodes on YouTube and YouTube Youngsters, creating movies with gentle animation only for the platform.
Whereas Tinkercast did attain a brand new (and extra various) viewers on YouTube, that group was far lower than its conventional podcast viewers. Tinkercast’s WowTube channel on YouTube has simply over 6,000 subscribers, and plenty of episodes have properly beneath 1,000 views. Among the many causes could also be that Tinkercast’s programming has to compete with an entire universe of children content material on YouTube — from prime quality, standard youngsters’s TV reveals from Disney and Nickelodeon to newbie content material like gameplay movies that will not be as enriching. So Tinkercast is in sort of a novel center group, the place it isn’t creating the kind of low-stakes content material that goes viral but in addition doesn’t have the sources of monumental animation studios.
“Being in that children house, there’s the added dimension of when children are logging onto YouTube, you understand, we’re competing with Roblox playback movies and unboxing movies. If we don’t get children within the first nanosecond, we’ve misplaced them,” Johanna Weber, Tinkercast’s senior director of brand name advertising and marketing and communications, informed Scorching Pod.
Weber additionally stated there’s no correlation between podcast episodes that carry out properly on YouTube and those who carried out properly on audio podcast gamers. Tinkercast has discovered that search phrases on YouTube (monkey, poop, and bathroom are standard) have pushed discovery of its podcast episodes.
One factor I’ll notice is that YouTube Youngsters offers mother and father the choice to show off the search perform. Whereas this security function might turn out to be useful in case of one other Elsagate — it does imply publishers on YouTube Youngsters will probably be uncovered to fewer audiences.
I’ll embrace extra from my interview with Tinkercast in Thursday’s Insider version.
BBC Radio is opening up extra podcast IP to the remainder of the world
The British are coming… to Audible and Apple and Spotify. International audiences will quickly have the ability to stream much more British radio packages on the podcast participant of their selection. BBC Radio introduced right now that it’s transferring a few of its programming to the British broadcaster’s business content material arm — BBC Studios — in an effort to faucet into a world podcast viewers. The information arrived on the second day of The Podcast Present, as podcast and radio professionals from around the globe collect in London.
The transfer alerts a fairly large strategic shift for the radio arm of the British broadcaster, which turned 100 years {old} final 12 months and has historically caught to public programming. BBC Radio made the choice after a Might 2022 assessment to determine the way it may faucet into the worldwide marketplace for podcasts. Just like the tv arm of BBC, which has partnered with streamers like Disney, Netflix, and Amazon to export British content material, BBC Studios has made partnerships with the large audio platforms like Spotify. The radio broadcaster is shifting programming from its factual, leisure, and drama divisions to BBC Studios — that means it may be provided for world distribution.
Final 12 months, the UK authorities froze funding for the BBC till 2024, requiring the broadcaster to make funds cuts. The federal government has additionally determined to abolish TV licensing charges in 2027 — which accounts for nearly two-thirds of funding for all of BBC, together with its audio operations.
Because of the transfer, extra British podcast IP will probably be made out there to exterior buyers, and BBC Studios can discover extra collaboration and funding alternatives. “Our plan permits the BBC to learn from the fast-growing world audio market, enabling our distinctive audio content material to achieve wider audiences, open up extra artistic alternatives and produce extra funding again into the BBC. We’ve seen how world-class BBC programming that’s vastly standard with our UK audiences can go on to do nice issues with BBC Studios’ backing, so I’m excited to see what will be achieved by this plan, serving to to place British podcasting on a world stage,” wrote BBC’s chief content material officer, Charlotte Moore.
Not everyone seems to be proud of BBC Radio’s transfer. The commerce physique for the UK’s audio trade stated that now indie podcast producers should compete with BBC Radio within the wider market.
The group is asking that unbiased producers have the possibility to compete to work in BBC audio productions.
“The BBC’s choice to maneuver some speech audio manufacturing groups into BBC Studios characterize a step change in its method, with it transferring manufacturing capability to supply additional competitors to the unbiased sector. As most unbiased audio manufacturing companies concentrate on leisure, factual and drama, they are going to now face further competitors from the BBC within the wider market,” wrote Chloe Straw, managing director of AudioUK, in an announcement.
Spotify is engaged on AI clones for host-read adverts
Invoice Simmons has spilled the beans on Spotify’s AI advert experiments. On a current episode of The Invoice Simmons Present, the founding father of The Ringer disclosed that Spotify was engaged on focused adverts that used voice cloning.
“There’s going to be a approach to make use of my voice for the adverts. You must clearly give the approval for the voice, however it opens up, from an promoting standpoint, all these completely different nice prospects,” stated Simmons in a dialog with The Atlantic author Derek Thompson.
Cloning superstar voices is nothing new. A number of AI firms already provide free text-to-speech instruments that function the likes of Gwyneth Paltrow, Snoop Dogg, Joe Rogan, and different celebrities. Whereas these instruments aren’t good, many voice actors, audiobook narrators, and podcast hosts have expressed concern that AI may remove their professions altogether. The Display screen Actors Guild (which covers some audio trade professionals) included the specter of unregulated use of generative AI as one among its main issues to deal with in upcoming contract negotiations. Final week, the guild referred to as for a strike authorization vote.
When Scorching Pod reached out to Spotify, it didn’t instantly touch upon the accuracy of Simmons’ remarks. “We’re at all times working to reinforce the Spotify expertise and check new choices that profit creators, advertisers and customers. The AI panorama is evolving shortly and Spotify, which has an extended historical past of innovation, is exploring a big selection of purposes, together with our vastly standard AI DJ function,” wrote Spotify promoting head in B2B communications Erin Types in an e-mail.
It isn’t a whole shocker that Spotify is exploring AI-generated voices for host-read adverts. Final 12 months, the corporate acquired Sonantic, a text-to-speech platform that has created superstar voice clones for the gaming and leisure industries — together with Val Kilmer’s voice in High Gun: Maverick.
That’s all for now! See you on Thursday for an Insider version of Scorching Pod.